国际会计师联合会前秘书长格鲁诺来京访问
国际会计师联合会前秘书长(1991~1999)格鲁诺近期来京访问。受亚行委托帮助中注协审查内部监控、考试组织等项目。据悉,将工作三个月。
在京期间,格鲁诺会见了在他担任国际会计师联合会秘书长时中国注册会计师界的一些老朋友:财政部原副部长张佑才先生,中注协前秘书长丁平准先生,中注协前外联部主任、现澳洲会计师公会北京办事处主任章海贤先生。老朋友见面格外亲切,叙旧之时,大家都沉浸在对往日回忆的欢乐中。中注协现任秘书长陈毓圭先生也参加了“交朋友”的亲切活动,他感谢格鲁诺先生过去、现在对中国注册会计师行业的关心与支持。格鲁诺表示,他永远是大家的好朋友,永远是中国CPA的好朋友。
丁平准先生向格鲁诺先生赠送了他亲笔签名的《中国注册会计师:世纪末的回眸》(改革卷)。格鲁诺先生高兴地表示:这是中国CPA发展史上具有重要意义的史书,他虽然读不懂中文,但十分珍惜,将作为珍品珍藏。他希望丁先生尽快完成他尚未完成的巨著。为了支持丁先生第二卷——开放卷的写作,他在繁忙的工作中挤出时间,写下了他与丁先生几次接触的回忆文章。
FOREWORD BY JOHN GRUNER
It was a little over ten years ago that I first made the acquaintance of Mr. Ding Pingzhun, who was at the time the Vice Secretary General of the CICPA. In early 1992, not long after I took over as the Director General of IFAC, I accompanied Mr. Bertil Edlund, the then President of IFAC to Beijing to begin discussions in earnest on the admission of the CICPA to IFAC. The talks were candid and although no breakthroughs occurred, we both understood each other’s positions better. We were hosted at a dinner by the then State Councilor and Finance Minister Wang Binqian and Vice Finance Minister Zhang Youcai and I recall especially Mr. Ding’s very witty sense of humor during the dinner.
That first meeting was only the beginning of my association with Mr. Ding and the accountancy profession in China. In January 1993, Mr. Ding visited the IFAC secretariat in New York, as the deputy leader of a CICPA delegation. They had come to the US and Canada to study the accountancy profession in those countries as part of a program to accumulate experiences for enactment of the Chinese accountancy law. We wished them well, and also held more discussions on the CICPA IFAC membership. I was especially impressed with Mr. Ding’s commitment and seriousness of purpose.
He had clearly done his research on a host of issues related to the CICPA and IFAC.
By then, Peter Agars had assumed the IFAC presidency, and over the next several years, we continued the exchanges with CICPA and Mr. Ding, who had also become the Secretary General of CICPA and a very articulate spokesman for the organization. The question of CICPA membership was being actively considered at the IFAC Council level. The “name issue” for the Taiwan accountancy body was now clearly under discussion. CICPA had rejected an IFAC proposal, believing that it could send a misleading message and was not consistent with CICPA’s principled stand. Nevertheless, I felt that we were moving towards resolution.
The next event took place in April 1996, when I visited Beijing again, this time with Juan Herrera, who had taken over as IFAC President. This was somewhat of an historic visit, in that it was during these discussions that the procedural problems were solved. CICPA was to put forward an application and IFAC Council followed with a resolution to solve the name issue. During the meeting, Mr. Herrera expressed IFAC’s wish to be both flexible and sincere to all parties on the name issue. Similarly, Mr. Ding contributed his own wisdom to the discussions. We finished that milestone meeting with a dinner hosted by then Finance Minister Liu Zhongli and Zhang Youcai, who had remained throughout these years another trusted supporter of CICPA and IFAC. Once again, Mr. Ding made a memorable speech at the dinner- he was a man who was devoted to the advancement of the accountancy profession in China.
In October of that year, we met again, this time in Kuala Lumpur, at the 14th CAPA Conference. Mr. Ding and Mr. Chuck Zhang were the CICPA delegation to that conference and they delivered to us the formal IFAC membership application. Yet, there were still some open issues, because CICPA was also seeking membership in CAPA, and we wanted to coordinate these initiatives. No one wanted the CAPA membership process to jeopardize the IFAC membership. Once again, Mr. Ding’s skillful handling of the matter averted problems. It is interesting to note that since that time, not only has CICPA become a CAPA member, but it has also succeeded to the CAPA presidency- quite an achievement in such a short time, but I think indicative of the commitment of the CICPA to be an active and responsible voice in the international profession.
The year 1997 saw further movement. Mr. Ding visited IFAC in New York in March of that year to clear any lingering doubts about CICPA membership in IFAC. Hong Kong was seeking to host the 2002 World Congress- which it will do in a few months- and Mr. Ding wanted to express his support for this proposal and his wish that the accountancy bodies in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Mainland China would all be brother organizations in the IFAC family, once CICPA joined. We passed this message to the IFAC Council meeting two months later and CICPA was formally admitted. And finally, just six months after that, the CICPA participated in the 15th World Congress of Accountants in Paris. Their contributions and activities at that Congress demonstrated to the international community that CICPA was a worthy member of the global profession.
We continued our communications off and on over the next two years, after which we both moved on to other responsibilities. And now, three years later, I find myself once again in Beijing as an independent consultant, on another short-term project. It has given me a chance to reflect on a ten-long year friendship with Mr. Ding and to recall him as a man of integrity and dedication, with a keen sense of humor and a knack for working well with people. I congratulate the CICPA on the great strides it has made since its founding in 1988 and wish it further success in the future.
John Gruner
Director General, IFAC (1991-1999)
(签名)
Beijing September 2002
国际会计师联合会前秘书长(1991~1999)格鲁诺为丁平准先生《中国注册会计师:世纪末的回眸》(开放卷)撰文(中译文):
1992年,在我接任国际会计师联合会秘书长一职后不久,就同IFAC第六届会长阿加斯先生于4月间来到北京,访问了CICPA。当时中国的国务委员兼财政部长王丙乾先生在钓鱼台宴请我们,丁先生陪同张佑才副部长出席了这次宴会,这是我们的首次会见,从此开始了长达十年的友好交往。此行的主题,仍然是研究寻找解决CICPA加入IFAC的途径。虽然这次访问没能彻底解决这一问题,但双方进一步了解了彼此的立场,IFAC接受了CICPA要求台湾会计师组织改变名称的建议。席间,丁先生多次丰趣和恢谐的谈话,给我留下了深刻的印象。
1993年1月,丁先生作为CICPA代表团副团长到达纽约,访问了IFAC秘书处,我们进行了友好的会谈。丁先生研究问题深入、认真的态度,使我深为感动。据了解,此行是为了制定中国的注册会计师法,而前来考察美国和加拿大的有关法律和管理体制。我祝他们访问成功。
1993年3月,我同IFAC第七届会长埃德隆先生来到北京,第三次商谈CICPA加入IFAC问题。丁先生参加了这次会谈。在此这前,IFAC作出了改变台湾会计师组织在IFAC中的名称的有关决定,但是CICPA表示不能接受,认为IFAC所使用的台湾会计师组织的英文名称,按照中国人的翻译会引起歧意,将有损中国的原则立场。
1996年4月,我和IFAC第八任会长格雷拉先生第四次来到北京。这次访问,对于IFAC和CICPA来说,都是一次具有历史意义的访问。就是在这次访问中,我们相互之间解决了长期未能解决的程序性问题,也就是IFAC接受CICPA关于台湾会计师组织改变的名称后,即交付IFAC常务理事会表决,IFAC通过后,即通知台湾方面新的改变后的名称,不再在事前征求台湾方面的意见。格雷拉先生在这次会谈中,表现了高度的灵活性和解决问题的诚意。丁先生作为CICPA的主谈人员,会谈时阐述的原则立场和强硬的态度及会谈中的睿智语言,使我感到尤衷的敬佩。在钓鱼台刘仲藜部长和张佑才副部长宴请我们时,席间丁先生轻松愉快而感情充沛的插话,使我们感到这是一位对中国注册会计师行业充满感情的人物。近二十年之久而未能解决的问题,终于在这次会谈中解决了,大家都为此感到高兴。
1996年10月,亚太会计师大会在马来西亚的吉隆坡举行。丁先生和章海贤先生作为CICPA的代表出席了这次会议。当时,IFAC虽然通过了关于台湾会计师组织改名的问题,但有关AICPA加入FIAC的问题,在程序上还没有最后完成,大家都不希望在CICPA加CAPA时,影响CICPA加入FIAC。丁先生和章先生在这次会上的卓越表现,羸得了全亚太会计师组织和国际及各大洲会计师组织的赞扬。他们巧妙地解决了这两者之间的关系,并最终成为CAPA理事,为后来CICPA出任CAPA副会长、会长打下了基础。
1997年3月,丁先生率代表团到纽约访问,期间,到了IFAC秘书处。丁先生在与我会谈中,重点阐述了CICPA加入IFAC后,香港、台湾会计师组织在IFAC中的地位,是“一个家庭三兄弟”的关系,同时表示支持2002年在香港举行第十六届国际会计师大会。我非常清楚知道,丁先生此次谈话的用意,在于解除将于5月在多米尼加举行的IFAC理事会表决CICPA加入IFAC问题时有关理事的疑虑。丁先生的表态非常明确而清晰,我向其后举行的IFAC理事会上转达了这番意见,对表决CICPA加入IFAC起到了极大的作用。
1997年10月在巴黎举行世界会计师第十五届大会时,我再次与丁先生相逢,他作为CICPA代表团的秘书长,为这次大会的召开作出了中国会计师界对全球的卓越贡献。张佑才副部长在大会上的成功讲演,CICPA代表团在会议期间的各种成功的活动,为中国CPA开始走向国际就树立了良好的形象。
我与丁先生长达十年的友谊,在我的脑海中留下了深刻的印象。现在,我与丁先生虽然都离开了这个行业,但我们永远是好朋友,中国CPA与世界CPA永远是好朋友。祝CICPA过去、现在、将来都取得辉煌的成就!
IFAC前秘书长(1991~1999) 格鲁诺
在京期间,格鲁诺会见了在他担任国际会计师联合会秘书长时中国注册会计师界的一些老朋友:财政部原副部长张佑才先生,中注协前秘书长丁平准先生,中注协前外联部主任、现澳洲会计师公会北京办事处主任章海贤先生。老朋友见面格外亲切,叙旧之时,大家都沉浸在对往日回忆的欢乐中。中注协现任秘书长陈毓圭先生也参加了“交朋友”的亲切活动,他感谢格鲁诺先生过去、现在对中国注册会计师行业的关心与支持。格鲁诺表示,他永远是大家的好朋友,永远是中国CPA的好朋友。
丁平准先生向格鲁诺先生赠送了他亲笔签名的《中国注册会计师:世纪末的回眸》(改革卷)。格鲁诺先生高兴地表示:这是中国CPA发展史上具有重要意义的史书,他虽然读不懂中文,但十分珍惜,将作为珍品珍藏。他希望丁先生尽快完成他尚未完成的巨著。为了支持丁先生第二卷——开放卷的写作,他在繁忙的工作中挤出时间,写下了他与丁先生几次接触的回忆文章。
FOREWORD BY JOHN GRUNER
It was a little over ten years ago that I first made the acquaintance of Mr. Ding Pingzhun, who was at the time the Vice Secretary General of the CICPA. In early 1992, not long after I took over as the Director General of IFAC, I accompanied Mr. Bertil Edlund, the then President of IFAC to Beijing to begin discussions in earnest on the admission of the CICPA to IFAC. The talks were candid and although no breakthroughs occurred, we both understood each other’s positions better. We were hosted at a dinner by the then State Councilor and Finance Minister Wang Binqian and Vice Finance Minister Zhang Youcai and I recall especially Mr. Ding’s very witty sense of humor during the dinner.
That first meeting was only the beginning of my association with Mr. Ding and the accountancy profession in China. In January 1993, Mr. Ding visited the IFAC secretariat in New York, as the deputy leader of a CICPA delegation. They had come to the US and Canada to study the accountancy profession in those countries as part of a program to accumulate experiences for enactment of the Chinese accountancy law. We wished them well, and also held more discussions on the CICPA IFAC membership. I was especially impressed with Mr. Ding’s commitment and seriousness of purpose.
He had clearly done his research on a host of issues related to the CICPA and IFAC.
By then, Peter Agars had assumed the IFAC presidency, and over the next several years, we continued the exchanges with CICPA and Mr. Ding, who had also become the Secretary General of CICPA and a very articulate spokesman for the organization. The question of CICPA membership was being actively considered at the IFAC Council level. The “name issue” for the Taiwan accountancy body was now clearly under discussion. CICPA had rejected an IFAC proposal, believing that it could send a misleading message and was not consistent with CICPA’s principled stand. Nevertheless, I felt that we were moving towards resolution.
The next event took place in April 1996, when I visited Beijing again, this time with Juan Herrera, who had taken over as IFAC President. This was somewhat of an historic visit, in that it was during these discussions that the procedural problems were solved. CICPA was to put forward an application and IFAC Council followed with a resolution to solve the name issue. During the meeting, Mr. Herrera expressed IFAC’s wish to be both flexible and sincere to all parties on the name issue. Similarly, Mr. Ding contributed his own wisdom to the discussions. We finished that milestone meeting with a dinner hosted by then Finance Minister Liu Zhongli and Zhang Youcai, who had remained throughout these years another trusted supporter of CICPA and IFAC. Once again, Mr. Ding made a memorable speech at the dinner- he was a man who was devoted to the advancement of the accountancy profession in China.
In October of that year, we met again, this time in Kuala Lumpur, at the 14th CAPA Conference. Mr. Ding and Mr. Chuck Zhang were the CICPA delegation to that conference and they delivered to us the formal IFAC membership application. Yet, there were still some open issues, because CICPA was also seeking membership in CAPA, and we wanted to coordinate these initiatives. No one wanted the CAPA membership process to jeopardize the IFAC membership. Once again, Mr. Ding’s skillful handling of the matter averted problems. It is interesting to note that since that time, not only has CICPA become a CAPA member, but it has also succeeded to the CAPA presidency- quite an achievement in such a short time, but I think indicative of the commitment of the CICPA to be an active and responsible voice in the international profession.
The year 1997 saw further movement. Mr. Ding visited IFAC in New York in March of that year to clear any lingering doubts about CICPA membership in IFAC. Hong Kong was seeking to host the 2002 World Congress- which it will do in a few months- and Mr. Ding wanted to express his support for this proposal and his wish that the accountancy bodies in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Mainland China would all be brother organizations in the IFAC family, once CICPA joined. We passed this message to the IFAC Council meeting two months later and CICPA was formally admitted. And finally, just six months after that, the CICPA participated in the 15th World Congress of Accountants in Paris. Their contributions and activities at that Congress demonstrated to the international community that CICPA was a worthy member of the global profession.
We continued our communications off and on over the next two years, after which we both moved on to other responsibilities. And now, three years later, I find myself once again in Beijing as an independent consultant, on another short-term project. It has given me a chance to reflect on a ten-long year friendship with Mr. Ding and to recall him as a man of integrity and dedication, with a keen sense of humor and a knack for working well with people. I congratulate the CICPA on the great strides it has made since its founding in 1988 and wish it further success in the future.
John Gruner
Director General, IFAC (1991-1999)
(签名)
Beijing September 2002
国际会计师联合会前秘书长(1991~1999)格鲁诺为丁平准先生《中国注册会计师:世纪末的回眸》(开放卷)撰文(中译文):
1992年,在我接任国际会计师联合会秘书长一职后不久,就同IFAC第六届会长阿加斯先生于4月间来到北京,访问了CICPA。当时中国的国务委员兼财政部长王丙乾先生在钓鱼台宴请我们,丁先生陪同张佑才副部长出席了这次宴会,这是我们的首次会见,从此开始了长达十年的友好交往。此行的主题,仍然是研究寻找解决CICPA加入IFAC的途径。虽然这次访问没能彻底解决这一问题,但双方进一步了解了彼此的立场,IFAC接受了CICPA要求台湾会计师组织改变名称的建议。席间,丁先生多次丰趣和恢谐的谈话,给我留下了深刻的印象。
1993年1月,丁先生作为CICPA代表团副团长到达纽约,访问了IFAC秘书处,我们进行了友好的会谈。丁先生研究问题深入、认真的态度,使我深为感动。据了解,此行是为了制定中国的注册会计师法,而前来考察美国和加拿大的有关法律和管理体制。我祝他们访问成功。
1993年3月,我同IFAC第七届会长埃德隆先生来到北京,第三次商谈CICPA加入IFAC问题。丁先生参加了这次会谈。在此这前,IFAC作出了改变台湾会计师组织在IFAC中的名称的有关决定,但是CICPA表示不能接受,认为IFAC所使用的台湾会计师组织的英文名称,按照中国人的翻译会引起歧意,将有损中国的原则立场。
1996年4月,我和IFAC第八任会长格雷拉先生第四次来到北京。这次访问,对于IFAC和CICPA来说,都是一次具有历史意义的访问。就是在这次访问中,我们相互之间解决了长期未能解决的程序性问题,也就是IFAC接受CICPA关于台湾会计师组织改变的名称后,即交付IFAC常务理事会表决,IFAC通过后,即通知台湾方面新的改变后的名称,不再在事前征求台湾方面的意见。格雷拉先生在这次会谈中,表现了高度的灵活性和解决问题的诚意。丁先生作为CICPA的主谈人员,会谈时阐述的原则立场和强硬的态度及会谈中的睿智语言,使我感到尤衷的敬佩。在钓鱼台刘仲藜部长和张佑才副部长宴请我们时,席间丁先生轻松愉快而感情充沛的插话,使我们感到这是一位对中国注册会计师行业充满感情的人物。近二十年之久而未能解决的问题,终于在这次会谈中解决了,大家都为此感到高兴。
1996年10月,亚太会计师大会在马来西亚的吉隆坡举行。丁先生和章海贤先生作为CICPA的代表出席了这次会议。当时,IFAC虽然通过了关于台湾会计师组织改名的问题,但有关AICPA加入FIAC的问题,在程序上还没有最后完成,大家都不希望在CICPA加CAPA时,影响CICPA加入FIAC。丁先生和章先生在这次会上的卓越表现,羸得了全亚太会计师组织和国际及各大洲会计师组织的赞扬。他们巧妙地解决了这两者之间的关系,并最终成为CAPA理事,为后来CICPA出任CAPA副会长、会长打下了基础。
1997年3月,丁先生率代表团到纽约访问,期间,到了IFAC秘书处。丁先生在与我会谈中,重点阐述了CICPA加入IFAC后,香港、台湾会计师组织在IFAC中的地位,是“一个家庭三兄弟”的关系,同时表示支持2002年在香港举行第十六届国际会计师大会。我非常清楚知道,丁先生此次谈话的用意,在于解除将于5月在多米尼加举行的IFAC理事会表决CICPA加入IFAC问题时有关理事的疑虑。丁先生的表态非常明确而清晰,我向其后举行的IFAC理事会上转达了这番意见,对表决CICPA加入IFAC起到了极大的作用。
1997年10月在巴黎举行世界会计师第十五届大会时,我再次与丁先生相逢,他作为CICPA代表团的秘书长,为这次大会的召开作出了中国会计师界对全球的卓越贡献。张佑才副部长在大会上的成功讲演,CICPA代表团在会议期间的各种成功的活动,为中国CPA开始走向国际就树立了良好的形象。
我与丁先生长达十年的友谊,在我的脑海中留下了深刻的印象。现在,我与丁先生虽然都离开了这个行业,但我们永远是好朋友,中国CPA与世界CPA永远是好朋友。祝CICPA过去、现在、将来都取得辉煌的成就!
IFAC前秘书长(1991~1999) 格鲁诺
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